Oh Newsarama, you disappoint.
Anyone with any shred of Batman knowledge knows that Damian Wayne is not—by a long shot—the first to raise the question: ‘What would it be like for Batman to be a father?’
Throughout Bruce Wayne’s history (prior to the New 52 anyway), the very first ‘son’ that he raised was Dick Grayson, who turned out very well in adulthood. If you go way back into the history of the character, he originally raised Dick since he was 8 years old to adulthood. In the post-Crisis history, he also raised two more sons before the arrival of Damian: Jason Todd and Tim Drake.
On the front of Bruce Wayne being a biological father, that too was already explored with Helena Wayne who was his canonical daughter from 1977-1986 prior to her revival in 2005, and her full reinstatement in the New 52. He was literally there from the time she was conceived to the time she graduated college with her law degree. He raised this young woman from the day she was born to the day she left the nest (oh yes, I went there) and established both a career for herself and her superhero identity. All in all, history has consistently told us since 1940 that Bruce has never been a bad parent.
Long story short, Damian Wayne is not the originator of Batman being a father nor is he the first canonical child he’s had. At best, he was the first canonical biological son he’s had in the mainstream continuity, and at best he raises the question of what it would be like for Bruce Wayne to be the father of Talia Al Ghul’s baby.
[Edit]: For the record, I didn’t forget the fact that Bruce also adopted and raised Cassandra Cain. I was specifically answering the question posed by Newsarama about ‘how Bruce would be as a father, and what kind of son he would raise.’ Since the focus seems to be on the fact that Damian is Bruce’s biological child, I felt it was worth noting he had a biological child before him, who happened to be a woman. Just making that clear!
In a line up of
- Carrie Kelley
Where would Helena go as a Robin?
In the New 52? Before Dick Grayson.
- Earth-2’s timeline runs ahead of the mainstream DCU Earth.
- Helena served as Robin for a couple of years prior to landing on the main DCU Earth.
- Dick Grayson became Robin in roughly the same year Helena Wayne got stranded on the main DCU Earth.
Hi there, saw your nice graphic of the robins of the new 52, but technically Tim isn't a robin anymore.
That graphic isn’t mine since I snagged it right off of google. The graphic was actually made by a nickc0281 who posted it on Reddit.
The Huntress graphics, however, I did make those.
I cannot speak for the guy who made the Robins graphic, but I honestly doubt that name technicalities was what he was going for since Tim was—by all accounts—still a sidekick to Bruce, which is exactly what the role of Robin fulfils.
I will be honest and say it was an unnecessary change since it didn’t change the role that Tim played in Bruce’s life, but I do feel the essence of the pic is Batman’s sidekick.
The baby birds of the New 52.
3/4 black-haired, blue-eyed lads, 1/4 black-haired, blue-eyed lass.
Helena Wayne says ‘The Breasted Robins Club’ is feeling a little empty up in here.
Pete Tomasi and CBR confirm the guests for up coming issues of Batman and Robin, entitled:
- #19 — Batman and Red Robin
- #20 — Batman and Red Hood
- #21 — Batman and Batgirl
- #22 — Batman and Catwoman
- #23 — Batman and Nightwing
Will definitely be getting #22 for Batman and Catwoman alone. ♥
With regards to the guests, Pete Tomasi had this to say:
There are five stages of grief, and we intend to explore it in a very visceral way…Let’s just say there’s a big, epic picture in view over the horizon, but there’s plenty of lightning storms and hurricanes for myself, Pat Gleason and our partners in crime Mick Gray and John Kalisz to still fly through before it all becomes clear.
On Tim Drake appearing on issue #19, Pete confirms:
I wouldn’t jump to conclusions that Tim Drake is coming back in a big way. Red Robin is in issue #19, but not necessarily as a partner.
There’s still hope my Helena Wayne theory may still turn out to be true. ;)
Newsarama does a list of possible candidates that could take over the mantel of Robin, including:
- Cassandra Cain
- Stephanie Brown
- Carrie Kelley
- Beryl Hutchinson (Squire)
- Harper Rowe
- Tim Drake
- Damian Clone
- No one
(Yes that last one really is there).
I’m surprised Helena Wayne didn’t make this list as a possible candidate, but at the same time I’m very relieved. Robin is who she WAS on Earth-2, and more specifically, she was HER father’s Robin. It wouldn’t make sense for her to suddenly decide to take up on that vacancy given that (a) she mourned the loss of her “little brother,” and (b) she’s still not comfortable with the idea of being around a Bruce Wayne who isn’t her father.
Also, given that she’s already an adult woman (she’s established as 22-23 in the new continuity) and well established in her role as the Huntress (the costumed identity she’s always strongly identified with), a move like this would be a huge step backwards for her character.
Basically the new canon is that, because he was recruited like a month after Jason Todd's death, Tim decides that he couldn't be "another robin" so he named himself Red Robin from the start. Hope this helps.