I’m having a very difficult time reconciling the Talia al Ghul who wept over Bruce’s loss and Jason’s death with the one who would brutally cut down her own flesh and blood.
Not to mention that she went up against her father to bring Jason back; despite any ulterior motives she may or may not have had at the time, I would argue that it was at least partially motivated by her love for him.
In light of these panels —and all of Lost Days, really— I just can’t see her ordering the death of her own child in cold blood… or at all.
In place of a review for Worlds’ Finest #10 this month (which in my opinion wasn’t very good), I instead did a reflection post on my own experience with the character of Damian Wayne, who as everyone knows by now, was killed almost two weeks ago in Batman Inc.
It originally started off as another discussion post about the disturbing trend at DC Comics to kill off important characters in a hero’s life as a way of enhancing the narrative, but ultimately changed my mind when I realised I won’t have the opportunity to talk about this character again in a future storyline, or at least not one that would feature Helena Wayne any time soon. As such, I felt it was more worthwhile to talk about what developments I enjoyed about the character, including his relationship with his parents and distant Earth-2 relative.
Since it is, as I said, a reflection post, I must warn that it is very long. It’s enough to say it took all week to write it, but fortunately it’s short enough to not qualify as an encyclopaedia of feels.
On an unrelated note, I will get to the questions in my inbox tomorrow. I promise I’m not ignoring you guys, I just didn’t have time today to actually sit down and answer your questions. But I promise they will get answered tomorrow. :P
That being said, happy reading!
“do i have to choose?”
“i would much rather we were all TOGETHER.”
Writing a more in-depth article right now discussing yet another case of killing a minority character for no other reason than to serve as a plot-point in a narrative, in this case, a POC kid.
Might write one for Talia too if Morrison decides to have her kick it as well, given how very difficult it’s going to be for her to recover from the events of this issue. To quote flint_marko on S_D: “Morrison’s ruination of Talia is now complete.”
Not too many spoilery details since these are just my thoughts on the handling of the issue and writing. But I will cut out of courtesy to my followers.
Talia would never want her son dead.
NOT IN A MILLION YEARS.
Grant Morrison is the ONLY person to have written her with this attitude, and basically everyone else has written her pretty much the opposite. It makes absolutely no sense for her characterization and it’s what I find most problematic about both Batman and Son and Batman Inc.
It’s a big mess and I hope it gets retconned.
Not to mention she would never use her own son as a pawn in her own war against Batman, which in itself makes no sense for her character either. One, Talia has always been known to have an unwavering love for Bruce, which already makes the whole idea of her even waging war against him completely out of character for her. Two, given that unwavering love for Bruce, writing her as having no real love for the son she has with a man she loves is a complete wrong interpretation of her character.
As much as I am not a fan of her and Bruce together, I do like Talia as a character and I think Talia taking over her father’s “job” could have been easily told without going the route that Morrison took. The idea of Talia taking over her father’s empire in itself was already an interesting concept and would have been an excellent way to showcase all of the skills she acquired growing up.
DO U EVER HAVE A FICTIONAL CHARACTER THAT U JUST REALLY LOVE AND U WANT TO HUG THEM FOREVER AND PROTECT THEM FROM BAD PORTRAYALS OTHER PEOPLE PUT THEM THROUGH
Is that a trick question?
Power Girl, Huntress, Catwoman, Lois Lane, Wonder Woman, and Talia al Ghul.
Robin #33 (Legacy, Part 7)
You’ve got a little crazy on your face, Talia.
/Back when Huntress was actually an intelligently written character.
/I doubt an encounter between Talia Al Ghul and Huntress would be this well-written today under the current management if the encounter with Damian was any indication.
I think Nolan and crew needed to better acknowledge Selina’s role in Bruce’s life and further discuss how she is his link to humanity than they actually did.
Yeah, Selina isn’t fazed by Bruce and isn’t intimidated by Batman, but the role that she plays in his life is much more important than that. She is also his equal in terms of also being an outlaw who has an outlet (Catwoman) for coping with her life’s unique challenges, she’s also someone with a moral compass of her own, she’s very skilled at what she does, and—like Bruce—worked HARD to get to where she got.
This wasn’t someone Bruce just had the hots for, this was someone that he could connect with emotionally and relate to on a personal level.
And of course, no mention of Talia Al Ghul who was sadly wasted in this movie.
Someone on ComicVine has put together an incomplete list (cause surely listing them all would cause the internet to break)! DC heroines, anti-heroines, villains who have made the list include:
- Selina Kyle (the first most obvious)
- Talia Al Ghul (the second most obvious)
- Diana of Themyscira (the third most obvious)
- Lois Lane (not even Batman can resist the awesomeness of Lois)
- Helena Wayne (yes, THE Earth-2 Huntress)
- Kathy Kane (the original Batwoman)
- Barbara Gordon
- Dinah Drake (Mama Canary)
- Dinah Laurel Lance (Daughter Canary)
- Harley Quinn
- Cheetah (he has a thing for cat women…)
- Pamela Isley
- Madame Zodiac
- Zatanna Zatara
Bruce’s mouth knows no bounds.
Oh yes. I went there.