CROSSBOW-WIELDING VIGILANTE | Bruce Wayne used one during Zero Year.

This pleases me.

(From Green Arrow #25)

CROSSBOW-WIELDING VIGILANTE | Bruce Wayne used one during Zero Year.

This pleases me.

(From Green Arrow #25)

Green Arrow and Snow White sitting next to each other in an episode of The Roundtable. 
The best part? They’re both badass archers in their respective shows. ♥
Night is made.

Green Arrow and Snow White sitting next to each other in an episode of The Roundtable. 

The best part? They’re both badass archers in their respective shows. 

Night is made.

Arrow 1x07 Promo - “Muse of Fire” (HD) (par OfficialTVPromos)

Preview Batgirl Annual #1

chipsnopotatoes:

dcwomenkickingass:

Benes is the cover artist but Admira Wijaya in on interiors. I like what I see here; I think this may be the best Barbara has looked since the reboot sans the Hughes covers. 

Barbara may look good but Catwoman looks like shit. And talks like Samantha Jones. Ah, DCnU editors, are you so threatened that TDKR fanned the batcat flames and overwhelmed your pet ship that you’re foisting off Selina to Arrow so he can ride her coat tails? In the words of Madonna, this seems … reductive. And this comic. Um…Pass.

Yeah I’m not getting the Oliver Queen reference either. I haven’t been reading either Green Arrow or Catwoman after #0. Did Selina and Oliver appear in each other’s books recently or is this just another line Gail pulled out of a hat?? o.O

I know they’re going to appear together in Justice League of America, but that book doesn’t come out until next year. 

The biggest problem with Arrow was, in my opinion, that I think the showrunners seem to be under the impression that Oliver is Batman if Batman were an archer. Which is a complete misunderstanding of Oliver Queen's character, but oh well. I should not expect any better from the CW.

That’s exactly what happened actually.

If you watch the music score featurette on the CW website for the show, the producer does specify that he wanted to go “dark” in order to do a “grounded” show based on a comicbook character, and even cites The Dark Knight trilogy as an inspiration for the direction of the show. 

Basically the show’s version of Oliver Queen is what Batman would be if he was indeed an archer with a willingness to kill. Nothing about the character outside of the name and costume screams “Oliver Queen.”

Stephen Amell and Jessica de Gouw being goofy for the camera.
Still waiting for an official picture of the Huntress costume. :P

Stephen Amell and Jessica de Gouw being goofy for the camera.

Still waiting for an official picture of the Huntress costume. :P

Hi! Do you know how much of a role will Hel will play in the upcoming Arrow TV show (i.e. is it worth to watch it?)
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From all the coverage I’ve read on it, Huntress will be appearing for six episodes of Arrow as both a fellow vigilante working to bring down her father’s criminal empire, and as a potential love interest for Oliver Queen.

I personally find the relegating of Helena Bertinelli to the status of “love interest” and the lessening her Italian ethnicity very off-putting, but I do think it’s worth a shot for Helena Bertinelli fans, and even other Huntress fans. Beyond that, I can’t really comment on whether or not it’s worth watching since the pilot hasn’t even aired yet.

The frustrating thing about comics and comic book movies/tv shows

When you finally decide to get into comics after being introduced to your favourite character in a movie or tv show, only to come to the painful realisation that the character you got in the movie/show is not at all like the character you’re getting in the comics. 

Examples:

(Watching Birds of Prey show) “Oh cool! Batman and Catwoman have a daughter?? And she became the Huntress in response to losing her mother!? Must read comics now!!”

(Upon reading a post-Crisis Huntress story) “Wait! Huntress is a mafia princess in the comics??? And she became the Huntress as a result of watching her entire family murdered??? Then how come they turned her into Batman and Catwoman’s daughter in the show??”

(Google search) “Oh. I see. So she WAS Helena Wayne, but then got killed in a story and then they later created another Huntress with the same name and costume, but with a completely new origin. So she’s supposed to be the same character…but not? This makes no sense at all.”

And now, more recently, I can already predict the following:

(Watches Arrow) “Oh cool! Huntress is an angry mafia princess who’s out to kill her father’s criminal empire AND she gets to be with that hot Arrow guy? Must read comics!”

(Upon reading a New 52 comic) “Wait! So Huntress is NOT Helena Bertinelli in the comics? She was Batman and Catwoman’s daughter from another universe pretending to be a mafia princess to hide her real identity???? WTF??? Does this mean the show’s Huntress is also Batman and Catwoman’s daughter pretending to be a mafia princess as well???”

(Google search) Oh. I see. So she WAS based upon Helena Wayne, but then she died, and Helena Bertinelli was created in her stead, had a long history with DC comics, and just recently got turned back in to Helena Wayne? New comic reader just now tuning in, and this makes no sense at all.”

Raise your hand if you’ve had this happen to you, or predict this is what’s going to happen when Arrow draws in new DC Comics readers.

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Green Arrow To Bone The Huntress On New CW Series?
Gorgeous Australian Jessica De Gouw has just been cast as The Huntress on the new CW series “Arrow.” She’s described as a “potential love interest” for Oliver Queen.
Sadly the series is not using the current continuity’s Helena Wayne, the daughter of Earth 2’s Bruce “Batman” Wayne and Selena “Catwoman” Kyle. That Huntress was introduced in a 1977 DC Comics funnybook and served as the superpowered main character in the WB’s short-lived series “Birds of Prey.”
Instead “Arrow” is using the far less interesting 1989 reboot Huntress: Helena Bertinelli, a mobster’s daughter turned vigilante. (The Bertinelli Huntress probably does not exist in current DC continuity, since another DC reboot brought back Earth 2’s Helena Wayne Huntress last year.)
Maybe the series will next dust off Patience Phillips, the Halle Berry version of Catwoman?
If Queen and Bertinelli do commence boning, I wouldn’t expect it to last long. In the comics Queen’s longtime love is fellow superhero The Black Canary, Dinah Lance. Lance is played in “Arrow” by the comely Katie Cassidy.
“Arrow” comes to us from longtime “Dawson’s Creek” showrunner Greg Berlanti, whose prior superhero projects include the screenplay for last year’s awful “Green Lantern” movie. He also created 2010’s purely terrible ABC superhero hourlong “No Ordinary Family.” (There was talk of letting Berlanti write and direct a big screen version of “The Flash,” but happily Warner Bros. no longer appears to be pursuing that notion.)
“Arrow” arrives on the CW Oct. 10.
Find all of James Hibberd’s Entertainment Weekly exclusive on the matter here.
(via Ain’t It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news.)
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Given the premise of both the show (which didn’t scream Oliver Queen to me to begin with) and the role they’re relegating Helena too, it actually made me GLAD they didn’t use Helena Wayne. But since I do like Bertinelli as well, I still find this upsetting. It was bad enough when writers in the mainstream comics alone wrote Helena B as another point in another male hero’s vagina scoreboard (as Gail Simone so elegantly put it), it’s honestly not something I’d like to see replicated in a live action tv show, and even less so with this show’s version of Oliver Queen being depicted as a womanising, heterosexual, cismale (which again, doesn’t sound recognisable as Oliver Queen). 
Also, as much as I love Helena Wayne, I disagree that Helena Bertinelli was a “less interesting” character. For one, she represented an underrepresented group in comics (Italian and Catholic), and what’s more is that it’s so rare to see a positive portrayal of an Italian (more specifically Sicilian) character with a mafia background who actually breaks away from that god awful stereotype and is actually written like a real person. Going back to the fact that she’s Italian and Catholic, both of these things heavily influenced the person she became as an adult and her faith in particular was always a huge part of her identity. As a character, she was a woman with a very complex outlook on life: there were times when she was self-loathing, and then there were times when she had no problems asserting herself and making it clear she was her own woman who played by her own rules in life. She strongly desired significant relationships with others, but she wasn’t willing to change who she was to fit anyone’s self-righteous ideas of right and wrong (namely Batman). As a teacher, she did more than just teach her students, she was even there for them when they needed an adult to talk to and would even go out of her way to solve the kid’s problems if needed.
All in all, Helena Bertinelli was a very well-rounded, very three-dimensional, well fleshed out character beyond what was originally established in Joey Cavalieri’s 1989 series. It’s enough to say it’s an unfair comparison to compare her with Helena Wayne, because both are very interesting and compelling women of their own right and bring something new to the table in very different ways. 

newimageworks:

Green Arrow To Bone The Huntress On New CW Series?

Gorgeous Australian Jessica De Gouw has just been cast as The Huntress on the new CW series “Arrow.” She’s described as a “potential love interest” for Oliver Queen.

Sadly the series is not using the current continuity’s Helena Wayne, the daughter of Earth 2’s Bruce “Batman” Wayne and Selena “Catwoman” Kyle. That Huntress was introduced in a 1977 DC Comics funnybook and served as the superpowered main character in the WB’s short-lived series “Birds of Prey.”

Instead “Arrow” is using the far less interesting 1989 reboot Huntress: Helena Bertinelli, a mobster’s daughter turned vigilante. (The Bertinelli Huntress probably does not exist in current DC continuity, since another DC reboot brought back Earth 2’s Helena Wayne Huntress last year.)

Maybe the series will next dust off Patience Phillips, the Halle Berry version of Catwoman?

If Queen and Bertinelli do commence boning, I wouldn’t expect it to last long. In the comics Queen’s longtime love is fellow superhero The Black Canary, Dinah Lance. Lance is played in “Arrow” by the comely Katie Cassidy.

“Arrow” comes to us from longtime “Dawson’s Creek” showrunner Greg Berlanti, whose prior superhero projects include the screenplay for last year’s awful “Green Lantern” movie. He also created 2010’s purely terrible ABC superhero hourlong “No Ordinary Family.” (There was talk of letting Berlanti write and direct a big screen version of “The Flash,” but happily Warner Bros. no longer appears to be pursuing that notion.)

“Arrow” arrives on the CW Oct. 10.

Find all of James Hibberd’s Entertainment Weekly exclusive on the matter here.

(via Ain’t It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news.)

Follow my blog for more comic, movie, music, sports, and entertainment news. 

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Given the premise of both the show (which didn’t scream Oliver Queen to me to begin with) and the role they’re relegating Helena too, it actually made me GLAD they didn’t use Helena Wayne. But since I do like Bertinelli as well, I still find this upsetting. It was bad enough when writers in the mainstream comics alone wrote Helena B as another point in another male hero’s vagina scoreboard (as Gail Simone so elegantly put it), it’s honestly not something I’d like to see replicated in a live action tv show, and even less so with this show’s version of Oliver Queen being depicted as a womanising, heterosexual, cismale (which again, doesn’t sound recognisable as Oliver Queen). 

Also, as much as I love Helena Wayne, I disagree that Helena Bertinelli was a “less interesting” character. For one, she represented an underrepresented group in comics (Italian and Catholic), and what’s more is that it’s so rare to see a positive portrayal of an Italian (more specifically Sicilian) character with a mafia background who actually breaks away from that god awful stereotype and is actually written like a real person. Going back to the fact that she’s Italian and Catholic, both of these things heavily influenced the person she became as an adult and her faith in particular was always a huge part of her identity. As a character, she was a woman with a very complex outlook on life: there were times when she was self-loathing, and then there were times when she had no problems asserting herself and making it clear she was her own woman who played by her own rules in life. She strongly desired significant relationships with others, but she wasn’t willing to change who she was to fit anyone’s self-righteous ideas of right and wrong (namely Batman). As a teacher, she did more than just teach her students, she was even there for them when they needed an adult to talk to and would even go out of her way to solve the kid’s problems if needed.

All in all, Helena Bertinelli was a very well-rounded, very three-dimensional, well fleshed out character beyond what was originally established in Joey Cavalieri’s 1989 series. It’s enough to say it’s an unfair comparison to compare her with Helena Wayne, because both are very interesting and compelling women of their own right and bring something new to the table in very different ways. 

Arrow Adds Huntress … as Ollie’s Love Interest?

therearecertainshadesoflimelight:

dcwomenkickingass:

Arrow the new CW drama is adding an other famous female character from DC Comics — Helena Bertinelli aka The Huntress. (You know the one that doesn’t exist in comics anymore) The story, via EW, (who needs to correct their assertion the character debuted in 1947. Not the same character at all) also says the character will be a possible love interest for Ollie:

Helena is a potential love interest for Oliver Queen; a fellow vigilante, set on destroying her father’s organized crime empire. But Helena’s blind pursuit of revenge will put her on a collision course with the Arrow.

Australian Actress Jessica DeGaow gets the role and should appear in the sixth episode

Okay, not who I’d pick for an Italian Mafia Princess, but what do I know. What do you think?

And I’m done with Arrow.  DONE.

I was already on the fence because I’ve found their entire marketing for the show in which they take subtle digs at Smallville (the show ran 10 years, Arrow.  We have not even seen your pilot yet.  Save it.) and at Justin Hartley—who has been a class act throughout this whole thing btw.

Look, the bottom line is that Helena Bertinelli was one of the ONLY white female characters in the entire DCU that had a specific, important ethnic identity—-an identity that DEFINED her through to her core.

This doesn’t compare to the way Talia was whitewashed for Dark Knight Rises.  OK?  This is totally different.  Let’s get that out of the way.  This is not as serious as that.  But you know what?  This is an example of taking any character that strays from the cookie cutter white mold and casting them with a cookie cutter white actor. 

You know, Helena Bertinelli meant alot to me.  I’m 100% Sicilian and I was raised Catholic.  My father was born there.  I am a white woman.  But you know what?  I don’t look like the stereotypical image that society has created for white.  I have olive skin and black hair.  I have “ethnic” features.  I get called “ethnic.”  When I was doing professsional theater in college, I was only cast in roles if the part called for an “ethnic” character or a Spanish woman.  I was never cast in parts for regular white women. 

Any woman who was raised in a very traditional Italian family could probably tell you that Catholicism and Italian culture tend to go hand in hand.  Sometimes they bleed together in ways that can make your relationship with faith and culture bleed together too.  It’s a very specific cultural thing that other white families don’t always understand.   When I met my husband—-a man who did grow up in a very Anglo household—-there was culture clash with our families.  

Helena Bertinelli was a different white character that actually was allowed to have a clear ethnic identity that MEANT something to her.  Her faith and her culture defined her.   You cannot simply cast a random Brunette actress (an Aussie???  REally?????) with a perfect cookie cutter face and say that she is Helena because she has brown hair.   Where is her olive skin?  Where is her ethnic face?  Sicilian women don’t LOOK like that.   We are white women and we have white privilege but we also don’t look like your stereotypical white girl.  

Screw you, Arrow.  Screw you.

Reblogging for the flawless commentary.

Mind you, I was already pissed off at the premise of making Helena a “potential love interest” for a white womanising heterosexual male in the show alone, that I didn’t even get to the part about casting a non-Italian looking actress in the role. But truthfully, I don’t think I could have said it any better than what you stated here.

So glad I’m not the only one who said “I’m done with Arrow” after reading the character description for Huntress on this show. Hell to the fucking no.