fyeahcassandracain:

1onewolff:

Comments on Huntress’s costume.

Black Bat= The best.

Cass was actually still Batgirl in this one-shot.

And, if I may, I don’t think this panel does Cassandra any favors. She was petty and judgmental towards Helena Bertinelli, and would purposely antagonize her because… why? This was never really explained. She was just written completely out of character. Cass and Helena didn’t know each other very well, but Cassandra would never treat Helena like this. But that’s just Battle for the Cowl for you.

She was also talking to the same woman she got her Batgirl costume from. So yeah, definitely not the best story for highlighting ‘Best Moments from Cass’ as true as her comments are on the impracticality of the Jim Lee costume on a woman who’s not made of steel. 

Newsarama does a list of possible candidates that could take over the mantel of Robin, including:

• Cassandra Cain
• Stephanie Brown 
• Carrie Kelley
• Beryl Hutchinson (Squire)
• Harper Rowe
• Tim Drake
• Damian Clone
• No one

(Yes that last one really is there).

I’m surprised Helena Wayne didn’t make this list as a possible candidate, but at the same time I’m very relieved. Robin is who she WAS on Earth-2, and more specifically, she was HER father’s Robin. It wouldn’t make sense for her to suddenly decide to take up on that vacancy given that (a) she mourned the loss of her “little brother,” and (b) she’s still not comfortable with the idea of being around a Bruce Wayne who isn’t her father. 

Also, given that she’s already an adult woman (she’s established as 22-23 in the new continuity) and well established in her role as the Huntress (the costumed identity she’s always strongly identified with), a move like this would be a huge step backwards for her character. 

daddywarbats:

I want to do a cute comic with these three having fabulous adventures.

I’m calling it “The Bat Pack” in my head.

Except I probably can’t have Bruce, Alfred, Dick, Jason, Tim or Terry in it because they’re all in The-Black-Cat’s “Batman and Sons”

OH WELL WE CAN HAVE ADVENTURES WITHOUT THEM.

marcusto:

Thanks to Connection Games & Comics, Brendan, Bee, Kim and as well as all the great people that came by today to say hi. Great experiences like this really remind me that I do have the best fans.

YES! Someone actually cosplaying Helena Wayne. Love. ♥

helenabertinellihuntress:

jonnyzero:

The Better Half. by John Yandall

I assume the one in the middle is The Huntress. I can’t tell if it’s Bertinelli or Wayne, but I’ll reblog it on the perchance that it’s Bertinelli.

Judging by the costume itself and the women she’s surrounded by (all of them Earth-1 characters), I’m pretty sure it’s Bertinelli. 

While the Bat-mask resembles the pre-Crisis one Helena Wayne wore, she was not completely covered like she is here, nor did she at any point wear black except in the Superman/Batman #27 story. Also, Wayne’s pre-Crisis boots and gloves are full length, and the ones that she’s wearing here are mid-length, which is very characteristic of Bertinelli.

There’s also the fact that Helena Bertinelli is still easily the more recognisable Huntress to most fans, whereas Helena Wayne is still a very new character to these fans. As such there is far more fanart out there of Helena B than there is of Helena W.

Hope that helps.

Hi there! Thank you for your comments. :)

I actually liked Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown as characters. I particularly liked that Cass was Lady Shiva’s daughter and despite her upbringing to become better than her mother as an assassin, she became one of the best heroines in the DC Universe. While I didn’t like how Cassandra got her Batgirl costume (basically after Batman gave Helena Bertinelli shit for not living up to some unreasonable expectations), I do feel she built her way up into becoming one of the most recognisable Batgirls in the DC Universe. I feel that her relationship to Barbara Gordon was an important relationship because in addition to being mentored by her, it also helped Barbara move on past her own need for Batgirl and become a heroine of her own right: independent of Batman and in an identity and role that was uniquely her own. Outside of Calculator, no one else could top Barbara in computer hacking skills and digital data manipulation. Another thing that I felt was an important development for Cassandra’s character was her relationship to Bruce. In addition to being the only other heroine to share the “daughter” title besides Helena Wayne, she would also remind Bruce of basic human emotion that he would often deny himself.

With regards to Stephanie Brown, I can’t say I have as thorough a knowledge of her character as I do Cassandra, but in the stories I did read her in, I really loved her optimism and upbeat personality despite all that’s happened to her throughout life. I liked that she was pretty snarky but also had a very strong and unwavering sense of right and wrong. She was smart, outgoing, and friendly but was also not afraid to assert herself when she needed to. She’s also the only heroine who got to be both a Robin and a Batgirl! Who else can seriously claim that? In a way, the fact that Stephanie upgraded her heroine identity (first as Spoiler, then Robin, and Batgirl) was parallel to the developments she achieved as a character. (Also ignoring that War Games happened).

That being said, I think it’s sad that the PTB don’t feel there’s a place for them in this new DCU despite the fact that their stories wouldn’t change anyone else’s in any significant way. I don’t feel that making Lady Shiva the same age as Dick Grayson is a development that makes sense for an experienced assassin character such as herself, and worse, it lessens the chances of Cassandra being brought back into continuity. If Cassandra does get brought back, she’ll still lose a very important part of her history.

The fact that DC wouldn’t let Brian Q. Miller use Stephanie in his Smallville Season 11 run is also pretty sad. While I do like Barbara, I do see Stephanie more easily as Nightwing than I do Babs given that Steph already has a history of “upgrading” her superhero identity. 

As for seeing Steph and Cass on Earth-2, I would actually be all up for them showing up on Earth-2 if this was the pre-Crisis Earth-2, or even the version of Earth-2 I described in the previous post. The current Earth-2 as it stands has been pretty “doom and gloom” from the start, and given that James Robinson is quite fond of fridging characters as shortcuts for moving a story forward, I would honestly keep them as far away from his hands as much as possible. 

I am, however, oddly optimistic that we will eventually see Steph and Cass again, and I do hope they get treated better this time around than they have been as of late. One thing I have definitely noticed is consistent with DC is that no character (including female ones) ever stay dead forever.

Hopefully as this new DCU evolves and becomes a better place, more of the characters we love can start coming back again. :)

thefingerfuckingfemalefury:

comic-commentary:

this pretty much says it all

^ In which Steph totally hits on Power Girl

Steph

Steph your girlfriend is right there, stop that

She even knew about Power Girl’s 1-800 hotline!

Also, everyone hits on Power Girl. :P

(And strangely enough this was the story that confused the fuck out of me as to who Power Girl was. Supergirl from a parallel universe who is suddenly some magical dude’s long lost granddaughter? Wut?)

nanigasy:

Craig Rousseau - BATMAN: NO MAN’S LAND GALLERY #1

This now has me wanting a DCAU Cass. 

Good question. For the most part I think lots of jaws are going to drop at the idea of a parallel universe with an alternate Batman alone. But let’s see…

Bruce himself would probably think to himself “how many more children will I father?” and possibly shit a brick at the idea of “Helena Bertinelli” being his “daughter” in another universe if their past interactions are still in tact. 

Selina would probably look like the cover of Catwoman #7 and would probably decide to change her life around from what it *currently* is.

Dick and Tim strike me as the two who are most likely to accept the reality for what it is in addition to being initially surprised (though Dick may feel weird about sleeping with “Bruce’s daughter” if the Nightwing/Huntress mini is still in continuity).

Jason would probably be apathetic about the whole thing, but may find the idea of an alternate Batman who has no qualms about killing pretty cool.

Damian would probably stop feeling like a special snowflake once he learns that Helena beat him to the punch at technically being the first biological Bat-child, and would probably be envious of the fact that Earth-2 Bruce is more like the father he wish he had.

Barbara would probably be all WTF at the idea that Helena Bertinelli (if their past as BOP comrades is still intact) was really Batman’s daughter from a parallel universe the whole time, but at the same time would think it’s kind of cool that there’s a female heir to both the Wayne fortune and the Batman legacy on Earth-2. 

Alfred would probably accept Helena with open arms.

Stephanie and Cassandra…I guess depending on their past interactions with Helena Bertinelli, they would either be surprised at the idea that she was Batman’s daughter the whole time, or Stephanie in particular would find it really cool that there’s a woman out there who could legitimately claim to be Batman’s daughter AND a past Robin and would especially enjoy teasing Damian with the fact. 

And I think that’s everyone…