BATS OR BIRDS | A lesson in the history of the 'Birds of Prey.'

Later on in the story, the three Bat women team up to take on two other infamous Bat women!

It’s Mother vs Daughter, Ginger vs Ginger, and…Batwoman is kind of the third wheel here until Madame Zodiac shows up. >_>

Anyway…

The good guys win the good fight, and the bad guys get their arses handed to them by their respective daughter, ginger mate, and Kathy Kane!

And of course, Catwoman still never found out who the Huntress was. :(

BATS OR BIRDS | A lesson in the history of the 'Birds of Prey.'

The first time Helena Wayne met Barbara Gordon on Earth-1, she was quickly made to realise that she wasn’t the only Queen of Snark in the entirety of the DC Universe.

In fact, Ms. Gordon gave Ms. Wayne a good run for her money on that front!

But in reality, all that Ms. Wayne wanted was to have someone to talk to about her experiences as a ‘Bat woman’ of her own making, a unique experience she couldn’t share with anyone else outside of her own immediate family.

Her father didn’t want her following in her foot steps (so she fought as the Huntress in secret), her mother was dead (which gets brought up in this story), and her ‘brother,’ Dick Grayson, was functioning as a diplomat in Africa.

So meeting other Bat women like herself was her solution to her dilemma. 

BATS OR BIRDS | A lesson in the history of the 'Birds of Prey.'
For anyone who read Batgirl #32 by Gail Simone today…
You all know where I’m going with this….
Thirty-six years ago, this was a real meeting that happened between three really cool Bat ladies.
Two of them of course were resident’s of DC’s Earth-1 universe. The other—the one in the middle—was, however, ‘not of this world.’
She belonged to a different universe. One that functioned as the first incarnation of the DC Universe and later became home to the Golden Age continuity. It was a world where superheroes appeared decades earlier, aged in real time, and married their iconic love interests. On this world, Batman married Catwoman and fathered a daughter with her, a young woman whom they both named Helena Wayne. This world became known as Earth-2.
The young lady grew up, and developed a superhero identity of her own that both honoured her heritage, but at the same time allowed her to standout as a heroine of her own standing. She became The Huntress.
In addition to making a name for herself as her father’s successor and Gotham’s newest protector on Earth-2, the Huntress’ conquests didn’t end there. She also made her mark on the Earth-1 universe by first introducing herself to her father’s doppelgänger and meeting his family on this world.
It was through the Earth-1 Batman that the Huntress first met Kathy Kane (Batwoman) and Barbara Gordon (Batgirl).
BATS OR BIRDS | A lesson in the history of the 'Birds of Prey.'

For anyone who read Batgirl #32 by Gail Simone today…

You all know where I’m going with this….

Thirty-six years ago, this was a real meeting that happened between three really cool Bat ladies.

Two of them of course were resident’s of DC’s Earth-1 universe. The other—the one in the middle—was, however, ‘not of this world.’

She belonged to a different universe. One that functioned as the first incarnation of the DC Universe and later became home to the Golden Age continuity. It was a world where superheroes appeared decades earlier, aged in real time, and married their iconic love interests. On this world, Batman married Catwoman and fathered a daughter with her, a young woman whom they both named Helena Wayne. This world became known as Earth-2.

The young lady grew up, and developed a superhero identity of her own that both honoured her heritage, but at the same time allowed her to standout as a heroine of her own standing. She became The Huntress.

In addition to making a name for herself as her father’s successor and Gotham’s newest protector on Earth-2, the Huntress’ conquests didn’t end there. She also made her mark on the Earth-1 universe by first introducing herself to her father’s doppelgänger and meeting his family on this world.

It was through the Earth-1 Batman that the Huntress first met Kathy Kane (Batwoman) and Barbara Gordon (Batgirl).

Do you think Helena and Thomas can make a good team?
Anonymous

blackbatpurplecat:

helenawaynehuntress:

Which Thomas and Helena are we talking about?

Thomas and Helena Wayne on Earth-2?

Thomas Blake and Helena Wayne on Earth-11?

If it’s the former, I honestly don’t think that will be developed in a way that actually makes sense in the New 52. But if I were to go on my knowledge of the character, I think Helena Wayne would be pretty damn pissed to learn her father lied to her about the status of her grandfather, especially if it meant Bruce could’ve gotten additional help that didn’t cost him his life when she was a teenager. I also think she would be pretty upset to learn about her grandfather’s criminal past as the reason her father became the person he became. On those two accounts, I don’t think this meet-up would end well.

If it’s the latter, I think Earth-11 Catman and Batwoman would’ve been just like their mainstream counterparts of Batman and Catwoman. Tom would sometimes commit a crime to get Hel’s attention and play a game of Cat and Mouse, there would be ballroom dancing, sexualised fighting, bat and cat puns, the whole package, really. :P

The latter sounds so cute! I’d read that! ^_^

Selina would find it funny while Bruce would bend over backwards to balance between keeping Helena safe from a criminal and admitting that it had worked out between a criminal and himself. XD

If it was the Earth-2 Helena Wayne, then yeah, Selina would first be pissed to learn a dude in a catsuit stole her MO, but then laugh and turn to Bruce and say ‘Oh look, Bruce! It’s our life’s story happening all over again!’

Meanwhile Bruce would be like…’Uh….yeah, no. Maybe you should try dating other people Hel. Not sure if we can trust this guy.’

On Earth-11 though, she wouldn’t have that cause she *is* THE BAT on that world. Chances are, it would all be happening for the first time on that world. :P

Inspired by a conversation I had with my friend confusiongrows yesterday, I decided to do the stats and trends for Batwoman sales between 2011-2013 using data from ComicChron.

With a total mean sales of M=40094.89 (SD=13432.37) over the span of two years and four months, Batwoman has been doing pretty good sales-wise.

We’ll see how sales continue to trend by the end of 2014! :)

What do you think of Kathy Kane being established as a separate character from Kate?
Anonymous

I think it’s good that they established Kate as a completely separate character from the original Kathy Kane Batwoman.

Not only is it generally good practise to allow new characters to exist separately from their predecessors, but it especially prevents a lot of the problems that we’ve seen with characters like the Huntress, whose history has become a convoluted mess as a consequence of reboots. It also allowed for Kate to exist as a Batwoman of her own right with her own history that didn’t call for the erasure of her predecessor. 

therearecertainshadesoflimelight:

dcwomenkickingass:

One of the most consistent creative teams since the start of the new 52, writers Haden Blackman and J.H. Williams III have quit the Batwoman series. And there is no dancing around why based on a post on both Williams’ and Blackman’s web site where they note they are…

This is just heartbreaking.  I liked this relationship so much and I was rooting for these two to get married.  This was really the only romantic relationship I was invested in anymore at DC.  :(   I love Maggie Sawyer and I was so happy to see her getting some focus with Kate in this book.

The people stating that this probably has more to do with DC’s anti-marriage agenda are probably right.  But that’s not an excuse nor an acceptable response to this.

The reality is that DC leadership has such an immature, limited, destructive view of love and relationships at this point that it has now crossed over into derailing what should have been a chance to truly present a healthy, happy marriage between a gay couple on-page.   These characters deserved that. Marriage isn’t an end.  It’s a new beginning.  It doesn’t write characters into a corner unless the only “corner” you know how to write from is that your characters have to constantly be screwing new people.  And if that is your only frame of reference as a writer in order to keep things “interesting” then I genuinely feel sorry for you.

This is such a damn shame. 

Agreed.

It was already disheartening enough to see the Earth-2 Trinity brutally killed under Robinson’s pen (you know, the versions of the heroes that realised their full potential, married, and started families), their heirs (all three of them women) removed from their position of power in their own universe, and in that same universe, the loved one of another LGBTQ character was killed as plot device to set said character off on their heroic path and later put them in a dark place when they weren’t in costume.

This on the other hand is hitting the final nail on the coffin. One of the books that has been consistently good from the New 52 was Batwoman and the creative team for this book has been pretty solid in their handling of her narrative since the beginning. I could tell from reading the story arcs that Williams and Haden have had long term plans for the character and I especially loved how they developed Kate’s relationship to Maggie. The fact that they’re leaving after issue #26 without showing the character getting married makes me worry for the future and direction of this character, especially if she doesn’t end up in good hands following their departure.

At this point, DC’s misogyny culture has gone from discomforting to absolutely toxic. I’m at a point now where I feel the leadership at this company is in serious need of therapy to find better ways of dealing with their relationship and women issues that doesn’t involve pouring their own toxicity into the narratives of characters where they don’t belong. 

Batwoman and Huntress look so majestic here, it makes me want a team-up between these two to actually happen.
(But only in Batwoman’s book since that book is beautifully written). ❤

Batwoman and Huntress look so majestic here, it makes me want a team-up between these two to actually happen.

(But only in Batwoman’s book since that book is beautifully written). ❤

Helena Wayne travels back in time and meets younger versions of her respective family.

Helena Wayne travels back in time and meets younger versions of her respective family.